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Post by NightBlade on May 10, 2016 23:38:03 GMT
If you were offered $1000 to write a full sized fantasy novel with no swords, no magic, and no dragons, do you think you could do it? (PS the fine print would say that includes other bladed weapons, supernatural things or dragon-esque beasts :/ )
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Post by Leilani Sunblade on May 10, 2016 23:53:08 GMT
-No magic? Probably. I mean, others have. And I have at least one idea already that wouldn't necessarily involve magic. -No dragons? Done it- four times, believe it or not. (Well, three and a half. One's set in a world with dragons, but the dragons don't play any major role in the story.) -No swords? That would be the hardest part. Especially without magic. But probably doable. What counts as a bladed weapon, though?
So, in short . . . yes, I think I could do it. Though I'd want at least a potential publishing contract in the bargain as well.
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Post by Starsinger on May 11, 2016 0:04:47 GMT
It would definitely be doable (if I forget the fact that I've never yet completed a novel)... though I'd have to have a thorough list of what's not allowed, because I very much like doing twists on typical mythical creatures and the like. It could be an interesting challenge, with a nice reward/incentive to keep going.
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Post by jliessa44 on May 11, 2016 1:57:38 GMT
I could do it. I'm assuming by bladed weapon you mean one that's a typical blade like dagger, dirks, swords, etc. there are plenty of other weapons. Inow would I want to? Maybe not. My current novel is a more modern medieval world along the lines of Knight and Rogue and The Demon King. It has no magic and no dragons/mythical creatures. But I'm too lazy for the blade one.
Eta- Keeping in mind I'm too lazy write a whole novel.
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Post by WookieeElf on May 11, 2016 4:05:28 GMT
Simple: Fantasy in modern world. Elves with machine guns and dwarves with rocket launchers. I win.
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Post by Leilani Sunblade on May 11, 2016 12:10:16 GMT
Simple: Fantasy in modern world. Elves with machine guns and dwarves with rocket launchers. I win. Well, I suppose that's one way to do it. xD
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Post by jliessa44 on May 11, 2016 13:20:17 GMT
Lol. I was assuming modern fantasies didn't count.
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Post by Aviar Goldeneagle on May 11, 2016 21:48:19 GMT
I feel I wouldn't find it too hard.
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Post by Dmitri Pendragon on May 12, 2016 8:07:57 GMT
No bladed weapons: I'd make it a Stone Age culture with primitive axes and spears. No magic or supernatural things: (Wait, does that include deities?) I could. I like my magic though. I'll just have a really obscure science that can be explained by natural laws but looks like magic. No dragons: Psht. That's not exactly difficult.
I'm pretty sure I could do it. Offer me $1000 and I'll consider taking it up. (Keep in mind that NB was referring to $1000 USD, which is close to $1500 NZD.)
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Post by jliessa44 on May 12, 2016 14:08:08 GMT
I would love to see more Chakrams in fiction. They're super cool, unique, and not your average blade. I use them in my current project. But I also use knives, swords, and (primitive) guns because I'm too lazy to go all out unique.
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Post by NightBlade on May 12, 2016 14:25:45 GMT
I'm a huuuuge fan of all the unique weapons, like chakramas and khukris and shang ghous and naginatas... and writing a novel without them might hurt me too much x)
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Post by WookieeElf on May 12, 2016 16:04:53 GMT
The only chakrams I'm familiar with are from a game I played. My favorite pair were magical and could burst into flame.
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Post by jliessa44 on May 13, 2016 18:41:26 GMT
I have now cropped 10,995 words from my current project since starting it. That leaves me with 3,191 words that are usable. Yay.....
*Head desk* Time for more plotting I guess.
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Post by Idk323 on May 13, 2016 18:45:02 GMT
jliessa44 Heh... If I ever got around to doing actual editing on any of my projects, I have a feeling it would be like that for me too. Which is why I'm currently plotting a rewrite for my first book, since it's be much more difficult to actually edit that thing... >.< (It's also why I refuse to even think about editing until I've actually finished what I'm working on.)
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Post by Merenwen Inglorion on May 14, 2016 0:53:39 GMT
If you were offered $1000 to write a full sized fantasy novel with no swords, no magic, and no dragons, do you think you could do it? (PS the fine print would say that includes other bladed weapons, supernatural things or dragon-esque beasts :/ ) My first reaction: You want me to whut now??! My second reaction: No magic, possibly (and that depends if "strange science" would count as "magic"). No swords/metal/blades...um, maaaayyybeee, if I did some serious worldbuilding. No dragons...but...but...dragons are the best part! I do have some worlds without them, though, so it could be feasible. Sad and with much less amazing-ness, but feasible. Hmm. *wants to test if such a thing is possible for me*
No supernatural things (like fairies, Faeries, or alternatives)? Uh, if you want me to beat my brain that much, I'd better get half of the 1K up front, half after, and a percentage of each sale. But if there were no bladed weapons, supernatural things, or magic, wouldn't the story/feel fall more under sci-fi or historical fiction, and not fantasy??
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Post by Dmitri Pendragon on May 14, 2016 1:58:46 GMT
According to Daniel Schwabauer in Other Worlds, fantasy is defined by the presence of the supernatural.
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Post by jliessa44 on May 14, 2016 2:03:31 GMT
It would depend honestly. I don't feel that fantasy is defined by the presence of made up creatures or magic and I definitely don't think the weapons make a difference as long as they're still fairly primitive. As long as it's set in an alternate world that isn't sci-fi I would call it fantasy.
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Post by Elethia Arvell on Jun 11, 2016 5:09:15 GMT
If I were going to do a novel like that I would have the people use staffs and hand-to-hand combat. There could be special 'wizards' trained in the use of'natural magic'- that is, peak human condition like Bruce Lee. It could be pretty cool, actually.
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Post by Leilani Sunblade on Jun 12, 2016 1:10:08 GMT
Anyone here doing the GTW 100-4-100 challenge?
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Post by jliessa44 on Jun 12, 2016 2:33:23 GMT
Yep. Which reminds me I need to write my hundred words still. Grah.
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Post by Leilani Sunblade on Jun 12, 2016 11:18:58 GMT
@liessa: At least a hundred words isn't that hard, right? What are you working on?
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Post by jliessa44 on Jun 12, 2016 12:12:56 GMT
It's a new project, sort of similar to Knight and Rogue. But basically the Queen has been swindled by a con man, and a new member of the king's guard is put on the case because, due to a scandal while he was in training, everyone knows his cousin is a con man. The king's thinking is that they can capture the con man and he can pay off his debt to society helping catch this con man and they can keep the whole matter quiet so people won't know their rulers were so gullible. Anyhow, con man cousin isn't so keen on that idea and the last thing guardsman cousin wants is to work with in case his reputation gets sullied more than it already is by being related to the con man.
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Post by Leilani Sunblade on Jun 12, 2016 12:17:43 GMT
Ooh. That sounds fun (both to write and to read)! How's it going so far?
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Post by jliessa44 on Jun 12, 2016 12:31:24 GMT
Good. I'm at almost 3k and I'm gonna go back and add another chapter to be beginning because while typing out that summary I realized I should start with the guardsman instead of the con man. Thankfully that doesn't mean cutting anything out.
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Post by Leilani Sunblade on Jun 12, 2016 13:09:19 GMT
That's good! Glad it's going well! What made you decide you needed to start with the guardsman instead?
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Post by jliessa44 on Jun 12, 2016 13:46:24 GMT
The scene with the con man is him getting arrested by his cousin, and the problem is it doesn't have enough context to make it mean anything. He doesn't even realize it's his cousin until the end of the chapter. So since con man doesn't have much information on why he's getting arrested, the reader doesn't and could get lost or not care? Dunno. It just feels like if the reader knows what's going on and understands that guardsman has his enter career at stake in this arrest and the con man has his 'career'/ life at stake it'll be that much stronger of a scene.
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Post by Leilani Sunblade on Jun 12, 2016 16:23:24 GMT
Ahhhh. That makes sense.
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Post by jliessa44 on Jun 12, 2016 16:44:41 GMT
Yeah. What are you working on?
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Post by Leilani Sunblade on Jun 12, 2016 16:53:09 GMT
Well, my original plan was to do an assortment of short stories, rewriting bits of Destinies and Decisions (since I'm doing legitimate rewriting, not just edits), and Camp NaNoWriMo. But at the moment, it looks like it'll just be rewriting and Camp, as I've come up with a lot more stuff I need to write and rewrite for D&D.
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Post by jliessa44 on Jun 12, 2016 21:59:33 GMT
That sounds fun though. I always like the rewriting part better because I have an idea of where I'm going.
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